在初步完成五十六册的电子版佛典经文後，CBETA 的工作已迈入另一个分工更细
且整合性需求更高的作业阶段，除了在台北的办公室之外，我们亦有分散於其它
县市，甚至有远在异国的工作同仁，为了更有效结合这一份力量，我们想要架设
能在网路上进行专案管理的工具，不需要像project 那样强大的功能，主要目的
是在於各组能轻易沟通，随时填写自己的进度，也能让其他同仁掌握全部进度。

不知各位有没有此类资讯可以介绍，unix 平台的方案也可以，
最好不需要什麽花费的。:)
若有好的方案，非常欢迎您提供给我们参考，後学在此先献上万分的谢意！

祝　吉祥！

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==> 於 Heaven (Heavenchow@Lion) 文中述及:
: 各位好：
: 在初步完成五十六册的电子版佛典经文後，CBETA 的工作已迈入另一个分工更细
: 且整合性需求更高的作业阶段，除了在台北的办公室之外，我们亦有分散於其它
: 县市，甚至有远在异国的工作同仁，为了更有效结合这一份力量，我们想要架设
: 能在网路上进行专案管理的工具，不需要像project 那样强大的功能，主要目的
: 是在於各组能轻易沟通，随时填写自己的进度，也能让其他同仁掌握全部进度。
: 不知各位有没有此类资讯可以介绍，unix 平台的方案也可以，
: 最好不需要什麽花费的。:)
: 若有好的方案，非常欢迎您提供给我们参考，後学在此先献上万分的谢意！
: 祝　吉祥！
: 　　CBETA 网路组 敬上

可以将目标说得更清楚吗？

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==> 於 想去花莲看看 (tyuan@Lion) 文中述及:
: ==> 於 Heaven (Heavenchow@Lion) 文中述及:
: : 各位好：
: : 在初步完成五十六册的电子版佛典经文後，CBETA 的工作已迈入另一个分工更细
: : 且整合性需求更高的作业阶段，除了在台北的办公室之外，我们亦有分散於其它
: : 县市，甚至有远在异国的工作同仁，为了更有效结合这一份力量，我们想要架设
: : 能在网路上进行专案管理的工具，不需要像project 那样强大的功能，主要目的
: : 是在於各组能轻易沟通，随时填写自己的进度，也能让其他同仁掌握全部进度。
: : 不知各位有没有此类资讯可以介绍，unix 平台的方案也可以，
: : 最好不需要什麽花费的。:)
: : 若有好的方案，非常欢迎您提供给我们参考，後学在此先献上万分的谢意！
: : 祝　吉祥！
: : 　　CBETA 网路组 敬上
: 可以将目标说得更清楚吗？

目标大致上可以这样讲：

我们想架一个系统在伺服器上，能够做流程管理、KM、专案管理、ERP，甚至工时管理、
CRM等等，但是不想用M$的东东，因为要Many $$$$$$。:)

M$最进也一直在推展M$ extension server，不过我们对那些没有信心，也没有那麽多钱。

如果有linux的解决方案，就能够直接加在现有的伺服器上。

希望大家能够提供建议与指导。^_^!

我想基本的需求可能是群组讨论和文件管理吧，如果有专案管理(像是M$ Project)的系统
就更美了。:P

==> 於 想去花莲看看 (tyuan@Lion) 文中述及:
: ==> 於 Heaven (Heavenchow@Lion) 文中述及:
: : 各位好：
: : 在初步完成五十六册的电子版佛典经文後，CBETA 的工作已迈入另一个分工更细
: : 且整合性需求更高的作业阶段，除了在台北的办公室之外，我们亦有分散於其它
: : 县市，甚至有远在异国的工作同仁，为了更有效结合这一份力量，我们想要架设
: : 能在网路上进行专案管理的工具，不需要像project 那样强大的功能，主要目的
: : 是在於各组能轻易沟通，随时填写自己的进度，也能让其他同仁掌握全部进度。
: : 不知各位有没有此类资讯可以介绍，unix 平台的方案也可以，
: : 最好不需要什麽花费的。:)
: : 若有好的方案，非常欢迎您提供给我们参考，後学在此先献上万分的谢意！
: : 祝　吉祥！
: : 　　CBETA 网路组 敬上
: 可以将目标说得更清楚吗？

我举我自己的例子:

因为我们的工作机动性比较高, 许多事都是一边实验一边进行,
所以事先也无法用 project 这类程式去规划全面的事及行程.
我目前手中可能有几支程式要写, 这些是由各组所提出的,
所以我希望能有一个所有同仁都能写上最新工作进度的地方,
这样我就比较能评估, 谁的 case 比较急, 谁比较可以等...
而我安排这些进度时, 别人也可以依据我订定的支援时程,
去安排他们自己的时间.

也就是说, 每个人都可能有很多工作, 有的急, 有的不急.
这真的要大家都写出来之後, 才能全面的进行沙盘推演,
哪些事是谁配合谁先做, 哪些事大家都可以缓著点,
这样才不会忙错方向.

而且这些进度可能三五天就会变动, 由一个专案负责人主导
全部方案的方式不太可行, 所以希望能有一个地方大家
都能填上自己的所有工作进度, 互相配合其它人,
才将分散各地的人力充份且适切的运用.

所以若有什麽简单又适合的方案, 请好康倒相报. :)

  heaven

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: 如果有linux的解决方案，就能够直接加在现有的伺服器上。

今天看到一个KM的系统，可以架在Unix上唷，得好几十万。
:(

如果有订 MSDN 的话，就可以使用其中的 M$ Project，有授权。
MSDN 一年的订费印象中五六万块而已，不算贵，且可用大多数 m$
产品。不过如果组织小，可能比较吃亏。

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  您列的需求,我觉得应再写详细一点,什麽功能,做到什麽程度,
如果列出来的东西,不算很大的话,何不自己操刀,这样虽然会花
点时间coding ,但以後要改就比较方便.....

==> 於 小水滴 (triper@Lion) 文中述及:
:   您列的需求,我觉得应再写详细一点,什麽功能,做到什麽程度,
: 如果列出来的东西,不算很大的话,何不自己操刀,这样虽然会花
: 点时间coding ,但以後要改就比较方便.....

应该是这子说，因为cbeta的人力不多，负责写程式的heaven是众家必争之人，因此
工作事项很多，时程也满满的，需要一个简单的系统，可以把一连串工作的事情，显
示出目前的进度，然後知道现在有那些事情要处理，那些事情较急迫等等。

我们还有另一个问题，就是一大堆索取光碟的要求，希望能够直接和现有的资料库结合，
以避免重覆，并可控管目前的执行情形，例如邮寄了没，几月几号会处理等等。

大概就这样子，如果有现成的系统可用，希望大家能提供建议，不过如果要自己花时间
写程式，那恐怕会有其他的问题产生。^_^!

其实我们是很穷的，所以没什麽钱请人家写程式啦……

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Double Choco Latte is a package that provides basic project management
capabilities, time tracking on tasks, call tracking, email notifications,
online documents, statistical reports, a report engine, and more features
are either working or being developed/planned. It is licensed under
the GPL (GNU Public License), which means it is free to study,
distribute, modify, and use.

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Requirements
Here is a list of requirements and options to run Double Choco Latte.

PHP - recent versions of 3 and version 4 both work.
Any OS that runs PHP (including UN*X, BSD, Linux, Windows)
A web server
Apache
IIS
A SQL Database
PostgreSQL
MySQL
Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise
Microsoft SQL Server

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Features
Double Choco Latte provides basic project management, work orders, and call center tickets. It supports the following features and concepts:

Work Orders - Use for tracking history of almost anything: bugs, requests, maintenance, project tasks.
Projects - Include hierarchal support so sub-projects can be created. Parent project's statistics include all child project stats to provide an overall status of all projects.
Call Tickets - Use for contact with clients. Self-timing.
Time Cards - Time taken on a work order to accomplish an action. Multiple time cards can be input for a single work order.
Attribute Sets
An attribute set consists of: Actions, Priorities, Severities, Statuses.
Each product can support its own attribute set for work orders and tickets.
Accounts - Client based tracking
Personnel - People involved in the projects, including hierarchal support
Departments - To "categorize" personnel
Severities - List a bug's severity level
Priorities - Ranks bugs by priority
Statuses - Tracks bugs by status
Sequences - Related Work Orders carry the same Job Number and incremental sequence numbers. Can be used for projects.
Products - Obvious, but also can be assigned a person to "report to". Useful for product managers to track what they're responsible for.
E-Mail notification via watches.
Notification for statuses: Open, Close, Change
Optional notification for any activity
Can watch a product or project and receive E-Mails for their respective work orders
Can watch a specific work order.
Can also watch tickets in the same way, with the exception of projects.

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This is a list of companies and projects that use DCL. If you'd like to add your company/project to this list, click here. BT Openworld Content Studio
Tim Gregory tim.gregory at bt.com
We about to roll out DCL to a team of designers and coders to handle bug reports and daily work order management on the portals we manage. We are also hoping to replace our current time-sheet system with DCL's timecard reporting.
Dallas Airmotive
Jorge Adrian Salaices asalaices at dallasairmotive.com
I am starting to use it to keep track of project that are assigned to all of the Techs and My Programmers. It has Great Functionality and it is very Easy to use.
ISO 90001:2000 Registration
Darryl VanDorp themaniac at users.sourceforge.net
DCL is used in our company to track project work related to our Quality System Registration. For example a work order is submitted to create documentation; or to track the progress of the creation of a new training program etc. DCL was/is very helpfull
in providing very granular detail of project implementation and maintains very detailed history.
National Community Services, Inc.
Jason Cater jason at ncsmags.com
Our IT department has switched from yellow stickies on the side of our monitors to this excellent ticket/project management system. I can now print out reports on practically any aspect of our support/development -- even reports that are useful for
management whom has no clue what a "trouble ticket" is to begin with. The beauty of this system is in its simplicity: Complex enough to do what you need... simple enough to be useful.
RUBIX Information Technologies, Inc.
Renny Koshy renny.koshy at rubixinfotech.com
We were on the search for an easy to use, easy to configure problem reporting & feature request system. Of all the programs that we've looked at, I've liked DCL the best. There were some program with slightly "nicer" UI's *but ONLY for Micro$oft
Windoze* -- which made them rather unattractive. The fact that it was an opensource development project made it even more desirable. Great Product
USAHotelJobs.com
Derek Neighbors derek at gnue.org
We use DCL to manage all of our projects and trouble tickets for all our marketing and web development for USAHotelJobs.com. It has sped up development considerably as management and the programming team are now both more accountable to what is going
on in the projects.
Webpipe.net
Matt Garner mattg at webpipe.net
We use DCL as our support ticket management system, our order fulfillment system. It worked wonders for our support staff as they were using millions of PostIt notes and legal pads. We've integrated an automatic support email handling system which
automatically receives support mail, assigns the issue a ticket number, notifies the user, redirects to the appropriate staff based on keywords, and automatically tracks all correspondence in between! DCL is a life saver!
 Conquer Corporation
Walter Landman wlandman at conquer.net
We use it for managing our internal projects, the work that people outsource to us, and we handle other office matters. DCL offers plently of customization that fits 99% of our needs.
Embarcadero Publishing Company
Frank A. Bravo fabravo at EmbarcaderoPublishing.com
I have a staff of three who are responsible for several web sites and hardware/software support of our five physical sites. I looked for a long time to find a 100 percent web-based solution that would do what we needed and DCL is just that. We have
started to use it to track items called into our makeshift call center and it has performed great! Each of us can track problems and give insight into issues. It is all right there and accessible from anywhere! There are features we would never use,
but its customization allows for use to just use those parts we need. While I am still learning the technologies behind it, I am very pleased to have found it ?DCL itself is VERY easy to configure and use.
Lufthansa Systems Berlin
Herbert Mollien herbert.mollien at lhsystems.com
We use it mainly for bug-tracking purposes in a software development project.
RISCO, Inc.
Michael Dean mdean at users.sourceforge.net
This is the itch that needed scratching. Currently, DCL is being used in the call center for customer call tracking, development for tracking bugs and feature requests, hardware/networking for tracking maintenance issues, and QA for test cycle issues.
The MathWorks UK
Tom Yates tyates at gatekeeper.ltd.uk
We allow certain external users of MATLAB to report issues with custom products. DCL lets them report issues over the web, it lets us assign issues to engineers and track unresolved issues easily. It's great.
various
Dan Bethe dan_bethe at yahoo.com
I use it at home for managing my household of various renters and my basic life, and I've used it at various companies I've been at, to replace basic use of Microsoft Project. It's an essential groupware component, wrapped up in a nice SSL-protected
web page.


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==> 於 凤兮 (tyuan@Lion) 文中述及:
: 试试这软体看看
:         http://dcl.sourceforge.net

感谢您，我来试试看……^_^!

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